New to Java....authoring tools / compilers question

This may seem a silly question to you all......

I know absolutely nothing about Java, being a VB programmer. This is a situation I am looking to rectify (my lack of Java knowledge, not my VB programming).

I had a look at Sun's site but didn't fully understand the downloads on there. If I download the runtime environment and the SDK can I use it to write and compile Java code. Is there an editing suite like Visual Studio available?

Any tips to point me in the right direction would be much appreciated

Mark

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  • You should download the J2SDK 1.4.1 from http://java.sun.com. when you have done this, you do not need to download a extra JRE, because it is part of the jdk. As editing suite I use Eclipse, which I think is very good. NetBeans should also be fine (not tested it by myself). But they're somewhat difficult to handle at first (at last, they were for me), so you should perhaps use JOE, which is a very small, but rather good Editor for Java. I guess, the URL for it is http://www.javaeditor.de, perhaps there is an english version of it, too.

    Have fun programming in Java :-)!

    [size=1][Blue]For our true nature is sin
    [B]Cradle of Filth[/b]


  • : You should download the J2SDK 1.4.1 from http://java.sun.com. when you have done this, you do not need to download a extra JRE, because it is part of the jdk. As editing suite I use Eclipse, which I think is very good. NetBeans should also be fine (not tested it by myself). But they're somewhat difficult to handle at first (at last, they were for me), so you should perhaps use JOE, which is a very small, but rather good Editor for Java. I guess, the URL for it is http://www.javaeditor.de, perhaps there is an english version of it, too.
    :
    : Have fun programming in Java :-)!
    :
    : [size=1][Blue]For our true nature is sin
    : [B]Cradle of Filth[/b]


    Thanks very much for the info - I can't find an English version of Joe2 so I'll have to try and get to grips with Eclipse.
    This will be easier than relying on my schoolboy German!!
  • If you encounter any problems with eclipse (or java itself), you may ask me and the others ;-).

    : Thanks very much for the info - I can't find an English version of Joe2 so I'll have to try and get to grips with Eclipse.
    : This will be easier than relying on my schoolboy German!!

  • : I know absolutely nothing about Java, being a VB programmer.

    If you're used to Visual Studio (and you most likely are) i'd recommend you downloading "JavaOne bundled with JDK 1.4". That way you'll get everything without having to worry about settings and such which can be very confusing in the beginning and gets worse later on.

    Within 2 or 3 months you'll decide if you'll stick with JavaOne or if you want to look for something nicer. I like JCreator but i like to create/code my GUI's by hand. There are a number of options but you can start with the one i mentioned first.


    Kind Regards
    Konrad
    ----------------------------
    (+46/0) 708-70 73 92
    [email protected]
    http://konrads.webbsida.com

  • : : I know absolutely nothing about Java, being a VB programmer.
    :
    : If you're used to Visual Studio (and you most likely are) i'd recommend you downloading "JavaOne bundled with JDK 1.4". That way you'll get everything without having to worry about settings and such which can be very confusing in the beginning and gets worse later on.
    :
    : Within 2 or 3 months you'll decide if you'll stick with JavaOne or if you want to look for something nicer. I like JCreator but i like to create/code my GUI's by hand. There are a number of options but you can start with the one i mentioned first.
    :


    I have to admit, I love JCreator, I started with Forte, moved to JBuilder and finally settled on JCreator. I find it much faster than java-based IDEs. Although if your running under linux, or don't like to hand-code gui support, you'll have to run one JBuilder or JavaOne (what Forte is now called).
  • : I have to admit, I love JCreator, I started with Forte, moved to JBuilder and finally settled on JCreator.

    From worm to monkey to human <=> from Forte to JBuilder to JCreator :-)
    (My kind of people)

    : I find it much faster than java-based IDEs.

    It's faster because it uses MFC (MS Fundation Classes) which are "real" on Windows while Java uses JFC which means more or less that the components are not gotten from the system, but rather "drawn by hand". That [b]is[/b] slower.

    : Although if your running under Linux...

    Then you have problems much bigger than what IDE to use. And i'm not saying that Linux sucks to start a flame-war. It really does! ;-)



    Kind Regards
    Konrad
    ----------------------------
    (+46/0) 708-70 73 92
    [email protected]
    http://konrads.webbsida.com

  • ive gotta a problem related to sdk1.4 as well. How do u compile java files with it? wheres the javac.exe?
  • : ive gotta a problem related to sdk1.4 as well. How do u compile java files with it? wheres the javac.exe?
    :

    It depends on where you installed the SDK. I have my "Java" in:
    c:ProgramJavaSDK
    hence, the javac can be found in
    c:ProgramJavaSDKin

    If you can't locate it - use [Win]+f and let the computer do the job. If you got Linux - well, there you see... :-)

    You might want modify the CLASSPATH system variable so you won't have to enter the whole path to javac.exe/java.exe. But that's a later chapter. Now be gone and compile!


    Kind Regards
    Konrad
    ----------------------------
    (+46/0) 708-70 73 92
    [email protected]
    http://konrads.webbsida.com

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