Can you put a BASIC script into a web page???

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No. vbScript is the closest you'll get.

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Yeah, I thought that would be the case.

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Actually, yes, you can use compiled .exe QB programs as CGI and I have done it before. Like any other CGI language, QB uses stdout so you can just PRINT your html data.

The problem is that unfortunately most commercial servers don't support 16-bit DOS applications for CGI (actually, most don't support any .exe programs). And most ISP's will probably laugh at you if you ask!

However, if you're talking about using your own server it shouldn't be a problem. I used Xitami (free compact server software, see www.xitami.com) and it worked fine. Otherwise, there is some 16-bit CGI gateways available if you already have a different server set up.

If you want some source code to see how its done once you have the server set up (eg. read in form data, etc), I'll post it - it's surprisingly very simple to do.

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: : : No. vbScript is the closest you'll get.
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: : Yeah, I thought that would be the case.
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: : ~~ Skaven ~~
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: Actually, yes, you can use compiled .exe QB programs as CGI and I have done it before. Like any other CGI language, QB uses stdout so you can just PRINT your html data.
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: The problem is that unfortunately most commercial servers don't support 16-bit DOS applications for CGI (actually, most don't support any .exe programs). And most ISP's will probably laugh at you if you ask!
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: However, if you're talking about using your own server it shouldn't be a problem. I used Xitami (free compact server software, see www.xitami.com) and it worked fine. Otherwise, there is some 16-bit CGI gateways available if you already have a different server set up.
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: If you want some source code to see how its done once you have the server set up (eg. read in form data, etc), I'll post it - it's surprisingly very simple to do.
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Except for one little detail:

Yes, QB can be used to output HTML (at least, I'm assuming you are right), but the question wanted it embedded in the page itself like vbScript of JavaScript can be. In that case, no, it can't be done.

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: : : : No. vbScript is the closest you'll get.
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: : : Yeah, I thought that would be the case.
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: : : ~~ Skaven ~~
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: : Actually, yes, you can use compiled .exe QB programs as CGI and I have done it before. Like any other CGI language, QB uses stdout so you can just PRINT your html data.
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: : The problem is that unfortunately most commercial servers don't support 16-bit DOS applications for CGI (actually, most don't support any .exe programs). And most ISP's will probably laugh at you if you ask!
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: : However, if you're talking about using your own server it shouldn't be a problem. I used Xitami (free compact server software, see www.xitami.com) and it worked fine. Otherwise, there is some 16-bit CGI gateways available if you already have a different server set up.
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: : If you want some source code to see how its done once you have the server set up (eg. read in form data, etc), I'll post it - it's surprisingly very simple to do.
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: Except for one little detail:
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: Yes, QB can be used to output HTML (at least, I'm assuming you are right), but the question wanted it embedded in the page itself like vbScript of JavaScript can be. In that case, no, it can't be done.
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Yeah you're right, you can't write QB "scripts" in the sense that a script is an uncompiled program. I guess I misread the question!

: Yeah you're right, you can't write QB "scripts" in the sense that a script is an uncompiled program. I guess I misread the question!
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Then again, if you don't mind modifying input and file i/o routines, you would almost have vbScript from QB. Although vbScript is based on VB, VB is backwards compatible with most of QB, so they are all very similar.

I guess in summary:

Learn vbScript and use it.
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Get your host to support 16bit DOS apps and use your QB exe for CGI. (Interesting idea that I hadn't thought of!)

Thanks for you help. I normally use JavaScript or Python on my webpages because I have a good understanding of those languages. I also have a good understanding of GW BASIC and QBasic, that's why i asked.

And as I said... Thanks!!!

one nice thing there is a web-side script called netbasic (from Novell).

it's like qbasic

: Thanks for you help. I normally use JavaScript or Python on my webpages because I have a good understanding of those languages. I also have a good understanding of GW BASIC and QBasic, that's why i asked.
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: one nice thing there is a web-side script called netbasic (from Novell).
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: it's like qbasic
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Just out of curiousity, why not just use vbScript? Support is probably much wider and it's also still basic.

umm...vbscript pretty much is QBasic...its definately not "Visual"...as in where the V bart of the VBScript name came from...and almost every thing in Visual Basic came from QBasic...they're identical languages...just with a little improvement...but its the same thing... BASIC...

But...if you really wanted to, you could compile youre own BASIC script reader and embed it into IE yourself...of course visitors will need to download your components, but it can be done...if youre really interested then check out this link...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/networking/pluggable/overview/overview.asp

but as i and others have said....it'd be easy enough just to use vbscript

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: : one nice thing there is a web-side script called netbasic (from Novell).
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: : it's like qbasic
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: Just out of curiousity, why not just use vbScript? Support is probably much wider and it's also still basic.
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: umm...vbscript pretty much is QBasic...its definately not "Visual"...as in where the V bart of the VBScript name came from...and almost every thing in Visual Basic came from QBasic...they're identical languages...just with a little improvement...but its the same thing... BASIC...
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So there's not a visual design environment (or is there? Probably is.). Big deal. VBS is much closer to VB than it is QB. To some extent, VBS is OO and can use ActiveX components and (I think) call APIs. QB can do none of those. Yes, QB has QLB's and LIB's, but that's not hardly the same.

As for the language, no they aren't identical. VB does still support many keywords and commands from QB, but most have been replaced or updated and some more are virtually useless unless you really want them. You might as well say that C and C++ are identical....

: : one nice thing there is a web-side script called netbasic (from Novell).
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: : it's like qbasic
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: Just out of curiousity, why not just use vbScript? Support is probably much wider and it's also still basic.
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* /me opens 'Teach Yorself Javascript' *

Thanks for the help but from what I've seen, read and been told JavaScript is more widely used and cross-browser compatible. As for creating plugins and stuff - i'll think about it, but for the moment I'll JavaScript away.

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: No. vbScript is the closest you'll get.
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You could write a BASIC-script interpreter for interfacing basic-scripts with CGI ... but that is quite hard ...

You could also compile your basic executable, and then interface directly with CGI. (look at some of the tutorials ... they are often for C/C++ but you can get the idea how to do so ...)


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