See the discussion group at:
http://game4tress.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1205267557/1#1
maybe one of those links is what you need
Hope i've helped
Best Regards
Ricardo Furtado
: hello does any one know some good books for game programming in
: vb.net and c++.net because i want to learn how to make good games
: in both and can someone direct me to websites or places where i can
: get a development kit (excluding microsofts hobbyist xbox game
: compiler which makes you pay to share) for the xbox, or xbox 360 ,
: or xbox 360 elite (it would be nice if the kit was free but if you
: have to pay $500 or less and get one that has samples that would be
: fine too but i want to pay for something that allows you to
: distribute it too onto DVDs and it tells me how i can get my game
: signed or the program signs it itself). in simple i what to find a
: development kit for the xbox that i can get not matter if i pay some
: money for it but not pay an outrageous amount and be able to still
: distribute games after its signed by microsoft and i also what to
: know how to game program in c++.net and vb.net for windows, the xbox
: or xbox 360, and programming in c++.net or c++ for the ps2 and ps3
: or learn how to program for the ps2 and ps3.