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2 hours??? That's long enough. I usually switch between subjects after an hour.

Wow! I continue my struggle with PHP for about 8 hours every day with a smoke as my only break.

Anyway, my wish to to gain even more wishes. if not i think i would wish for a boost of pure intelligence. I want even more of that.:)


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my first wish will be to become rich, clever and white..I think whites have more privileges than us blacks.



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Lala!! That is f**ucked up! Honestly I must say I have some racist feelings myself towards asylum seekers in my hometown. Altough most of the time my hatred is towards the middle-east people who screw everything! So it's not the blacks.

Yesterday evening some of those idiots screwed up the bus we were in! And in Leeuwarden we can see them going home with beds, telly's and fridges on Sunday!! How the hell can they obtain such things while all the shops are closed??

Nah, let's face it. I think blacks in Holland have decent possiblilities in their life but when they are asylum seekers that don't even bother to adapt to OUR culture and language then...

You should come here when you've got you papers and you'll get a job for sure.

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Thats 3 wishes. I think most aspire to be rich.

On the colour issue. I can't say... because I just take people as they come.

Check out whats happening to farmers in Zimbabwe. That Mogagbe's mob just kills anyone that gets in the way.. be it black or white.

Why not spend time trying to run a country than trying to buy MiG and Sucio planes... and what for? So he can fire missiles are farms?!! Really stupid.



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no.. Im meant I had two hours of nonsense tasks to complete. Non programming realated. you are lucky to be able to do 100% programming.

I am lucky?? I invite you do to some of my work here. PHP sucks and the source code is bad and undocumented by the first developer:(

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Did n't really mean to be racist.....what I meant was the privileges of going to good high schools and all that ...when they go to university(college)they have a good background and find everything easy.....
About the papers you are right we can all get a job when we get the degree but then the other one obtains it easily,while I have to struggle really hard because of my poor background and stuff.


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Well, having a poor background just happens and cannot be undone.

: Did n't really mean to be racist.....what I meant was the privileges of going to good high schools and all that ...when they go to university(college)they have a good background and find everything easy.....
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Oh...just forgot that I only had one wish to make , but I don't want just to be rich though I also want to be CLEVER and WHITE. by the way; i was not speaking about blacks and whites from a political point of view, the whole idea is based on the good education white people get because they attend good high schools since they can afford them and when they go to varsity, things are much easier for them than for us.

this is especially happening in SA because of the apartheid thing..ie blacks were not allowed to attend white peoples schools and all that and now that they are allowed to ...most black parents can't afford to send kids to such schools since they didn't get educated due to apartheid.


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Oh...just forgot that I only had one wish to make , but I don't want just to be rich though I also want to be CLEVER and WHITE. by the way; i was not speaking about blacks and whites from a political point of view, the whole idea is based on the good education white people get because they attend good high schools since they can afford them and when they go to varsity, things are much easier for them than for us.

this is especially happening in SA because of the apartheid thing..ie blacks were not allowed to attend white peoples schools and all that and now that they are allowed to ...most black parents can't afford to send kids to such schools since they didn't get educated due to apartheid.


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Bleeh, apartheid. I know what that is. It's Dutch and I am not proud of it.


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: my first wish will be to become rich, clever and white..I think whites have more privileges than us blacks.
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I disagree. I am white, still not rich. Clever? I hope so but who knows.
You have to build you life no matter what color your skeen is. Be yourself. I live in the USA and I am minority here even though I am white. I am minority because I am immigrant. And you know what? I do not want to be like American even though I like this country and people who lives here. I want to be different just because I am different.

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Geez! That's some nice explanation. You want to be different because you ARE different, and that is... just the perfect line!

In addition to Lala wanting to be clever:
There is a true difference between black and white genes that cannot be undone. The black genes provides in general more physical power. I don't know about the white genes but maybe the simple explanation is that white genes provide in general more brain power.
When going back into history, we can see that the white were (almost always) superior to black people. Most of the time because of the clever inventions such as weaponary.
I do remember the Zulu's beating the English a long time ago while the English army was superior with it techniques and weapons. The zulu's only had their wooden weapons and maybe some leather armors.

I don't know about polynesion or asian differences.

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Everyone is different..everyone has strengths and weaknesses...good points and bad points.

But if we are going to go on about wars.. then Darq you must remember that the british empire was nearly 2rds of the world. This was not won with just weaponary.. it was won by lying and cheating and dr*gging local populations. It is nothing to be proud about.

However when the boxer rebellion took place all the other foriegners were wiped out (except a few that were allowed into the stockade) apart from the britsh.

But on resent wars.. The 'great' "Winston Churchill" made so many school boy errors in tackics.. infact they were totally stupid when you look back.. so many troops were killed for nothing.


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: There is a true difference between black and white genes that cannot be undone. The black genes provides in general more physical power. I don't know about the white genes but maybe the simple explanation is that white genes provide in general more brain power.
: When going back into history, we can see that the white were (almost always) superior to black people. Most of the time because of the clever inventions such as weaponary.
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: : When going back into history, we can see that the white were (almost always) superior to black people. Most of the time because of the clever inventions such as weaponary.
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: Geez! That's some nice explanation. You want to be different because you ARE different, and that is... just the perfect line!
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: There is a true difference between black and white genes that cannot be undone. The black genes provides in general more physical power.

I think this is just partially correct. I used to work with very clever black people and real idiots from white community.

That is why i say 'in general' instead of saying 'it's true!'. Ofcourse it does not count for everyone.

: : Geez! That's some nice explanation. You want to be different because you ARE different, and that is... just the perfect line!
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: Did n't really mean to be racist.....what I meant was the privileges of going to good high schools and all that ...when they go to university(college)they have a good background and find everything easy.....
: About the papers you are right we can all get a job when we get the degree but then the other one obtains it easily,while I have to struggle really hard because of my poor background and stuff.
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So what is your conclusion? I would advise your to make your conclusion like that:
Be yourself, work harder to get good education and good job. You need that to send your kids in future to the good school. Do not opposite/compare yourself with white person. We are different but we are not better or worse. We just different. This is it. Teach your kids the same philosophy. Ofcourse it just my opinion/avise and should not follow it.

: my first wish will be to become rich, clever and white..I think whites have more privileges than us blacks.

I don't want to be rich. I think all people are clever in some respect. Being white isn't nearly as important as knowing the right people.

Honestly, I believe in the "less is more" philosophy. I'm actively working towards "less". Less dependence on money, less dependence on society, less dependence on my car, television, supermarkets, etc... I want less. I'd even like a smaller house, somewhere further from the city.

: I don't want to be rich. I think all people are clever in some respect. Being white isn't nearly as important as knowing the right people.
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With this less theory. What would you be content with then? What would you be happy with?

Sorry to pri.. its interesting.

: That is why i say 'in general' instead of saying 'it's true!'. Ofcourse it does not count for everyone.

I don't think it even applies "in general". I think it's more of a cultural phenomenon than anything resembling genetics. It's the cultures that "progressed" out of the hunter/gatherer or nomadic phase and into agriculture that were ultimately able to develop cities and devote more time to science and discovery. Let's not forget that (at least) one of the most advanced ancient civilizations was dark-skinned. True, the Egyptians were not "black" as in Nubian (unless you listen to some historical revisionists), but the point remains that "civilization" as we know it depends on a particular cultural framework, which in turn depends on a particular relationship with the land.

Of course, this isn't to say that modern Western agriculture is the best possible way to grow food. It has it's own shortcomings, but that's a different can of worms.

: With this less theory. What would you be content with then? What would you be happy with?

I would by happy/content with having enough to make sure my family is comfortable, while making as small a "footprint" on the world as possible.

I'd love to grow/raise as much of my own food as I can.

I'd love to build my own house using ecological supplies like adobe and straw bales.

I'd love to live "off-the-grid" where all my electric needs are met by solar power and my water supplied by the rain or a well.

I'd love to have no car, or if I really needed one, a fuel-cell electric or zero-emissions bio-diesel.

I'd love to live further out in the "country" where the traffic noise isn't constant.

I'd love to make my own clothes.

I'd love to get rid of my television (but I'm addicted!)

Of course, my solar-powered adobe farmhouse would need a broadband internet connection

I'm actively working towards "less". Less dependence on money, less dependence on society, less dependence on my car, television, supermarkets, etc... I want less. I'd even like a smaller house, somewhere further from the city.
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Seems to me you are married? If it's correct how your wife reacts on that kind of phylosophy? Espacially this: I'm actively working towards "less".

: : With this less theory. What would you be content with then? What would you be happy with?
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: I would by happy/content with having enough to make sure my family is comfortable, while making as small a "footprint" on the world as possible.
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: I'd love to grow/raise as much of my own food as I can.
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: I'd love to build my own house using ecological supplies like adobe and straw bales.
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: I'd love to live "off-the-grid" where all my electric needs are met by solar power and my water supplied by the rain or a well.
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: I'd love to have no car, or if I really needed one, a fuel-cell electric or zero-emissions bio-diesel.
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: I'd love to live further out in the "country" where the traffic noise isn't constant.
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: I'd love to get rid of my television (but I'm addicted!)
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: Of course, my solar-powered adobe farmhouse would need a broadband internet connection

Sounds good... but all these solar pannels and weaving machines are going to cost money. Not to mention building a house. So first you need to be rich.

In my Garden, I have a well. If I wish to use the well, I cant because the council say it needs a meter. It costs more to use the well than to subscribe to the water board.

Also Solar would be good. Unfortunatly theres not enough sun hours to support it in the UK. A hyro-electric damn would work out well with all the rain though..... but i live on a flat plain.

Also I live in the country. 1 shop, 1 pub, a church ( not that i go to it) a village hall. Thats that.

Theres no plans for broadband to be rolled out to either. :(

Saying that. The peace and quiet is good. I find it difficult to sleep when I stay in hotels in the city.

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Hmm, i would like to participate in this discussion but i don't feel like it anymore. I typed some huge parts but it wouldnt submit:(


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: Sounds good...

I agree.

: but all these solar pannels and weaving machines are going to cost money.

Who said anything about weaving? I'd like to make my own clothes, not the cloth that I use. And yes solar panels are expensive, but they pay for themselves over time.

: Not to mention building a house.

That depends on how much you do yourself and what you want. And also where you build it. Where I live now, in a suburb of a major metropolitan city in the US, a 2000 square foot house on a 1/4 acre plot will cost AT MINIMUM $180,000 (US). For less than a THIRD of that price I could buy 20 acres WITH a 2000 sqft house AND a pond AND a barn out in the countryside of Oklahoma. It's all relative.

: So first you need to be rich.

Nope.

: In my Garden, I have a well. If I wish to use the well, I cant because the council say it needs a meter. It costs more to use the well than to subscribe to the water board.

Well that was just a hypothetical. Where I live it doesn't rain enough to get enough water from the sky so I would need to find alternatives.

: Also Solar would be good. Unfortunatly theres not enough sun hours to support it in the UK.

I have sun to spare where I live.

: A hyro-electric damn would work out well with all the rain though..... but i live on a flat plain.

All the rivers here have already been dammed up for agriculture.

: Also I live in the country. 1 shop, 1 pub, a church ( not that i go to it) a village hall. Thats that.

Cool! Sounds fabulous.

: Theres no plans for broadband to be rolled out to either. :(

Well you can always hope for Satellite access!

: Saying that. The peace and quiet is good. I find it difficult to sleep when I stay in hotels in the city.

I don't pay any attention to my neighbors anyways, I'd rather just live away from people in general.

: Seems to me you are married? If it's correct how your wife reacts on that kind of phylosophy? Espacially this: I'm actively working towards "less".

She's pretty much of a similar mind. She doesn't like "things". By that I mean she doesn't like to spend money just to have stuff. She's even mentioned on her own that she'd love to have a fuel-cell or hybrid car someday. Her motivation isn't for environmental reasons as much as pure economics. Over time I think she comes to similar conclusions as I do, but not necessarily for the same reasons.

: : Seems to me you are married? If it's correct how your wife reacts on that kind of phylosophy? Espacially this: I'm actively working towards "less".
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: She's pretty much of a similar mind. She doesn't like "things". By that I mean she doesn't like to spend money just to have stuff. She's even mentioned on her own that she'd love to have a fuel-cell or hybrid car someday. Her motivation isn't for environmental reasons as much as pure economics. Over time I think she comes to similar conclusions as I do, but not necessarily for the same reasons.

Right now, when I say "I'm actively working toward 'less'", I am mostly referring to debt. Paying off all credit cards, car loans, the house mortgage, etc. We go out of our way to spend less so we have more to put towards our debts. In just about two years we've paid off more than $10,000 in debt while maintaining our lifestyle. When we're out of the red then we'll be able to afford for her to stay home with the kids full time and live off my income alone. From that point, the "plan" (something we've just mused about so far) is to cash in the equity we've built up in the house and move to a less expensive area.

: That depends on how much you do yourself and what you want. And also where you build it. Where I live now, in a suburb of a major metropolitan city in the US, a 2000 square foot house on a 1/4 acre plot will cost AT MINIMUM $180,000 (US). For less than a THIRD of that price I could buy 20 acres WITH a 2000 sqft house AND a pond AND a barn out in the countryside of Oklahoma. It's all relative.

Sure it's relative. How about job in countryside of Oklahoma? In the best case, you probably will have to commute every day about 30 miles back and forward. I know a lot of people who lives in suburbs of LA or NY do that every day. I did that a few years ago when I lived in Baltimore and worked in DC. I like driving but it was awful.

you are lucky to be able to do 100% programming.
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Who told you that? I would not say that working with Crystal
Report. It's not programming at all!!!

: Also Solar would be good. Unfortunatly theres not enough sun hours to support it in the UK. A hyro-electric damn would work out well with all the rain though..... but i live on a flat plain.

Sounds like you have a lot of complains - "not enough son", "flat plain"? How about wind and mills? Do not tell me there is not enough wind ?

I was away when you guys were all discussing about my "3 wishes",I read all your replies this morning they were all amazing.Infact I'm impressed by your views on these issues.Thanx to you all.

Well, that's what you'll get when getting involved in something like this. Heheh. I would have participated but the server wouln't let me.

: I was away when you guys were all discussing about my "3 wishes",I read all your replies this morning they were all amazing.Infact I'm impressed by your views on these issues.Thanx to you all.
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Why were n't you able to post replies? let me guess! you probably used
a huge number of swearing words in your replies, that Tore decided not to let your things go through....just teasing!

: Well, that's what you'll get when getting involved in something like this. Heheh. I would have participated but the server wouln't let me.
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Wheeehee:(( No i didn't. Ha, kind of funny that Tore calles the routine that checks the contect, an AI. It's not an AI at all!:??


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